I enter the consultation room.

Me: Hi, I’m Peri Apex.

Him: Hi.

We shake hands.

Me: Your dentist has asked me to evaluate three teeth on the bottom that have had root canal work. Apparently you need some major restorative work done on them and there’s a question of whether or not the root canal status is stable.

Him: Yes, but let me ask you a question first about teeth that are impossible to freeze. One of the teeth that I’ve had a root canal on is impossible to freeze. At least 4 dentists have tried, but none of them have been able to get it numb and they all start off by saying that they’ll be able to achieve what the previous dentist wasn’t able to. So I had to have general anesthesia to get the root canal.

Me: Yup, sometimes teeth are difficult to numb up because of things like anatomic considerations or nerve inflammation in the tooth.

Him: No, this tooth doesn’t numb up.

Me: Well lower molars can be especially difficult to get fully numb.

Him: No, it was an upper tooth.

Me: Oh.

Him: My lip and cheek and gums were all numb but not the tooth.

Me: Getting teeth that are that sore fully numb is a challenge sometimes.

His voice now starts raising a notch.

Him: No, the tooth was not numb at all.

Me: The tooth was probably a little numb, just not enough to work on.

Now he sits up straighter, voice raises another notch.

Him: No. No. The tooth was not numb one bit. The dentists have told me all about where the nerves run, how they are supposed to be frozen in specific places, but I have a medical condition that prevents that particular nerve from getting affected by anesthetic.

I started raising my voice now because this silly, pointless conversation is dragging out too long. It’s not even one of the areas I’m supposed to check out.

Me: Have you had trouble getting frozen anywhere else?

Him: No, the condition is just with that one nerve in the area there.

Me: Someone told you that you have this medical condition?

Him: No, I know I do.

Me: What’s it called?

Him: I don’t know what it’s called.

Me: So how do you know that you have a medical condition?

I now realize that we’re both really getting pissed at each other.

Him: Because I’m telling you this is what happens when anesthetic is used on the tooth!

Me: How can you say that you have a medical condition like this when you don’t even have a name for it?

He looks at me with this incredulous look now.

Him: What are you talking about? There are lots of medical conditions without names.

Me: Well anyway this conversation is pointless because I’m looking at different teeth today anyway. They shouldn’t have a problem numbing up better if they need work.

Him: No, you don’t get it, the tooth didn’t numb up at all!

Me: The only way you can tell me that the tooth was completely unaffected by the anesthetic was if they tried to drill into it without freezing, then froze you up and then drilled into it again.

Him: Well it was not numb at all.

Me: You know, we’ve got lots of theories about teeth that are resistant to anesthetic; things like pH imbalances, receptor up-regulation, central facilitation and neuroplastic changes that affect receptive fields, but not one medical condition that describes one tiny, single nerve bundle to a tooth that is completely resistant to anesthetic.

Nodding the “whatever” nod at me.

Him: Uh huh.

And so the entire waste of a consultation appointment went. My insight into his argumentative nature became more detailed during this exchange:

Him: What forms of sedation are available here?

Me: Laughing gas, with freezing of course; a pill with or without a little bit of laughing gas; IV sedation via a dental anesthesiologist.

Him: Is freezing included with the pill?

Me: Yes, it’s included with all the sedation modalities. Don’t worry about freezing it’s a given.

Him: But you said laughing gas and freezing, you didn’t say it with the others.

Me: Don’t worry, no matter how deeply you are sedated, you’re getting freezing.

Him: Because of my subconscious maybe feeling stuff still?

Me: Yeah.

Him: Is General Anesthesia an option, do you do freezing with that?

Me: Inhalalation anesthetic is not an option here, but you would get freezing with that too if it were.

So…please do me first and make it quick before he needs to come back for work in that upper area where the medical condition lies.



  • http://www.energypoweralternatives.com Josh Maxwell

    I just stopped by your blog and thought I would say hello. I like your site design. Looking forward to reading more down the road.

  • http://haleyhughes.blogspot.com haleyhughes

    I’d help you out, but I don’t have a firearm owners identification card, and where I live I need one of those to obtain a gun. Sorry.

    However, I’m no expert here, but I think this guy has misdiagnosed his condition. I think he has Stage N Argumentative Anxiety-osis. Or something like that. I read about it once. In a blog, I think.

    (haleyhughes’s last blog post: Dear friend with whom I haven’t spoken since 1993)

  • http://mungobah.blogspot.com Mungo

    Smile, nod, and leave the room for a minute. Return with two dixie cups and 2 of those horse-pill sized benzodiazapene tablets. You chuck one back and then tell him to have one – tell him that yours is just a caffeine pill to help you concentrate on the procedure, tell him that his is a pre-operative vitamin. Tell him then that you’ll inject anesthetic later on.

    Have your assistant wait until this guy sleeps, then wheel him out into the back alley, change the sign on your office and put a ‘moved away to Edmonton’ sign in the window. Leave the room yourself, find a comfortable sofa in a locked office and pass out for a while.

    That’s my advice.

    Hope that you find it useful.

    Cheers,

    Mungo

  • http://www.endodontics.ca Periapex

    Josh: Thanks for dropping by.

    Haley: Too bad about the gun license. Maybe you can use a slingshot on us. The accepted medical treatment for the disorder that you describe is death by firing squad, so you might be off the hook for the gun anyway.

    Mungo: Or I could just escape the world and its crazy inhabitants by moving to your place and hanging out in your weed patch. Looks like it could sustain me for quite a while.

  • http://www.kamalalewis.wordpress.com Kamala

    Thank God I am not the only one with the crazy patients! I feel so much better after reading your blog this morning. My husband thought I was deranged I was laughing so hard, but he just doesn’t understand.

    (Kamala’s last blog post: My Token Picture)

  • Thejules

    Oh~my~gosh! I never heard of a tooth being “frozen”! Asleep, but not frozen! Next thing you know, he’ll want a video of the proceedure in “H.D”!
    My advice, run (dont walk) to the nearest exit…follow the yellow brick road. Grab a few adult beverages on the way, go to Mungo’s for a the afternoon!

  • big person

    don’t worry about yourself. i’d just kill him.

  • http://www.thedentalimplantblog.com Teresa Duncan

    You forgot to offer the option of door hitting his ass on the way out!

  • 3.5/4 of a dentist

    I love trying to reason with people who have no sense of reason.

  • http://www.edkieu.com Edgar

    On the brighter side, you can have fun with him since his expection of anaesthesia is already very low and he expects the pain anyway.

    (Edgar’s last blog post: Removal of Impacted Wisdom Teeth)

  • http://www.endodontics.ca Periapex

    Kamala: And thankfully I’m not the only one with crazy patients either.

    TheJules: When I trained in the US we used to “numb” teeth up. Here in Canada, we “freeze” teeth. Must have something to do with the climate.

    person: I’d just be happy if he doesn’t return. I’ve tried to make that the case. We’ll see.

    Teresa: I was very, very close to kicking him out. Never did, but I was one word away from it.

    3.5: Thanks for dropping by. Every service industry has good and bad people that you deal with. This is one of the bad…

    Ed: Unfortunately he won’t have any work done in the area without GA or deep sedation because he’s convinced the tooth can’t be anesthetised. So that plan won’t work. Good luck with your LA experience…

  • http://www.fragileheart.com/journal fragileheart

    What on earth are these weird little creatures on your blog? LOL They’re shapes, but they have faces? I feel like I’m in a cartoon!! hahaha

    Um… I do not envy you at all… I think I probably would have punched him, then sedated him, and frozen his tooth and worked on it. Then when he came to, you could be like… that’s an extra $500. And he’s be like.. what? what for? And then you could say… For being a pain in the butt and for being wrong. =P

    (Of course, I know you can’t really do all that but it’s nice to pretend sometimes isn’t it?)

    (fragileheart’s last blog post: New addition: Monday Madness)

  • http://www.endodontics.ca Periapex

    Just to prove me wrong he would probably say that he still felt it.

    After I updated my wordpress installation (finally) I updated my plugins and now my Gravatar plugin gives me some options to provide people without Gravatars some distinctive icons. I liked the monsters — almost as much as I liked that zombie lawn ornament you saw on Twitter.

  • 3.5/4 dentist

    On OMFS rotation last month, a woman came in with her kid..she needed #1 extracted..

    woman: can you knock me out?

    me: not today, if you want to be sedated you have to make an appointment and come in another day. otherwise, we can only extract that one tooth.

    woman: I don’t want to feel it.

    me: you won’t feel it, we’ll give you some novocaine and numb you up.

    woman: give me a lot.

    me: okay, here’s some advil – take it now, it should help with discomfort and swelling after the extraction.

    woman: no, I don’t want it.

    me: why?

    woman: that’s all you’re gonna give me. it’s not gonna be enough. I’ll feel it.

    me: we’re still going to numb you up, we’re not counting on the advil for the procedure right now.

    woman: I’ll still feel it.

    me: you won’t.

    woman: I don’t think so.

    me: okay, don’t take it then.

    woman: *takes the damned advil*

    of course..after the extraction, she wanted vicodin, which the residents wouldn’t prescribe and she wouldn’t leave until she was escorted out.

  • http://www.endodontics.ca Periapex

    You should have let her smoke some of the Crack she’s probably carrying in her purse.

  • http://fightingwithwriting.blogspot.com/ Tam

    I think your hypothetical plan is the way to go. Drilling into the tooth with absolutely no freezing/numbing or anaesthitic first, in order for him to be able to make a legitimate scientific comparisom. :)

    (Tam’s last blog post: Guest Blog – Majik’s Thoughts)

  • http://www.endodontics.ca Periapex

    That’s what I thought. But he obviously knows more than I do about this stuff. Oh well. Haven’t heard from him since so I’ll uncross my fingers soon.

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